Verbesserte Geometrie 600EFL (DFC)
Hallo zusammen...hab das ganze mal auf Englisch abgetippt für'n anderes Forum aber ich glaube hier gehört's auch noch hin!
In diesem Sinne - Enjoy!
Hello to all of you...
I got mine today!
For those of you who want to improve their Cyclic Values in Vbar (Beast also i guess)...
First off all it's with the DFC Rotor Head!
I also installed the "Upper" Rotor-Balls into the Swash when first installing the DFC - so no mesurement with STOCK setup -> Although the balls come with the standard 600EFL rotor head - so just use them. Don't know how they are called in english - but the ones that sit on the large link (M3,5x10,5mm?) and connect the blade to the swash -> Use the shorter "Upper-Old-Head" ones instead of the ones supplied (M3,5x12.5mm?)...
Here are the parts needed:
DFC Rotor Head
Linkage Ball Set HN7065T (700 Nitro)
Linkage Ball Set H60224T (600E Flybar Version)
KDE Main Rotor Holder Arm - XT Version (DFC Version!)
Links for Pics (German - Sites)
DFC -= freakware GmbH =- 600DFC FBL Hauptrotorkopf Upgrade Set (Align) H60239A
HN7065T HN7065 - ALIGN T-Rex 700N Kugelkopf - Set - Helitec.at Ihr Partner f?r Produkte von ALIGN FUTABA Robbe Graupner...
H60224T H60224 - Align 600PRO Kugelkopfset - Rotorkopfanlenkung - Helitec.at Ihr Partner f?r Produkte von ALIGN FUTABA Robbe Graupner...
KDE KDE Direct - TREX 550/600 Series Main Rotor Holder Arm, XT Version
And now for the mesurement series:
Head - Swash Inner - Swash Outer - Cylcic Value - Max Pitch with Cyclic Ring 60
DFC - 10,5mm ("Stock" as described changed from top to bottom) - 9,77mm (Stock) - 73 - 20,5°
DFC - 10,5mm (-"-) - 11,77mm (H60224T) - 75 - 20,0°
DFC - 8,5mm (HN7065T) 11,77mm (-"-) - 80- 19,5°
KDE - 8.5mm (-"-) - 11,77mm - 88 - 17,5°
After installing I had to relevel the Swash and get the MIN / MAX equal again because you "lower" everything when using the shorter balls / KDE Arm...did not change my "screwd link length" though - becaus 0.5° are to little to correct...just used "vbar-subtrim-tab"...
After adjusting all to 12,0° Pitch and 8,0° Cyclic I'm now at:
90 Pitch
89 Cyclic
61 Cyclic Ring with +19,0° / -17,5° on my max cylic/collective combined...
You can't get it even as per -18,25° / +18,25° because the DFC is not (so) adjustable in height....I rather screw the plasitc links on the DFC completly minus one turn in...
Test flight is still to go tomorrow, but I think it will really rock! My 450 Pro Vbar flies "nicer" through rainbows/stops as it has 86 on Cyclic anyway...now the 600EFL MUST fly nicer too
For you guys from europe:
KDE Shipping with USPS International Express took only from the 16th to the 21st ...so 5 days (including a weekend) - but it's kinda pricy with USD $40...
The 2 parts are like 25€ and the DFC around 60€...
Not cheap but I'm pleased with the improved numbers!
I hope it was helpfull...after all you can say:
Smaller inner (8,5mm vs. 10,5mm) plus 5 Points
Larger outer (9,77mm vs. 11,77mm) plus 2 Points
KDE vs. Stock plus 8 Points
Hope the unequal max/min pitch due to the Cyclic Ring aren't gonna be a bummer...also the decreased range from 20,5° to more or less 18,25°...10% less "agility" ...Are you ever gonna need it?!
Greetings
NEBUCHADNEZZA
In diesem Sinne - Enjoy!
Hello to all of you...
I got mine today!
For those of you who want to improve their Cyclic Values in Vbar (Beast also i guess)...
First off all it's with the DFC Rotor Head!
I also installed the "Upper" Rotor-Balls into the Swash when first installing the DFC - so no mesurement with STOCK setup -> Although the balls come with the standard 600EFL rotor head - so just use them. Don't know how they are called in english - but the ones that sit on the large link (M3,5x10,5mm?) and connect the blade to the swash -> Use the shorter "Upper-Old-Head" ones instead of the ones supplied (M3,5x12.5mm?)...
Here are the parts needed:
DFC Rotor Head
Linkage Ball Set HN7065T (700 Nitro)
Linkage Ball Set H60224T (600E Flybar Version)
KDE Main Rotor Holder Arm - XT Version (DFC Version!)
Links for Pics (German - Sites)
DFC -= freakware GmbH =- 600DFC FBL Hauptrotorkopf Upgrade Set (Align) H60239A
HN7065T HN7065 - ALIGN T-Rex 700N Kugelkopf - Set - Helitec.at Ihr Partner f?r Produkte von ALIGN FUTABA Robbe Graupner...
H60224T H60224 - Align 600PRO Kugelkopfset - Rotorkopfanlenkung - Helitec.at Ihr Partner f?r Produkte von ALIGN FUTABA Robbe Graupner...
KDE KDE Direct - TREX 550/600 Series Main Rotor Holder Arm, XT Version
And now for the mesurement series:
Head - Swash Inner - Swash Outer - Cylcic Value - Max Pitch with Cyclic Ring 60
DFC - 10,5mm ("Stock" as described changed from top to bottom) - 9,77mm (Stock) - 73 - 20,5°
DFC - 10,5mm (-"-) - 11,77mm (H60224T) - 75 - 20,0°
DFC - 8,5mm (HN7065T) 11,77mm (-"-) - 80- 19,5°
KDE - 8.5mm (-"-) - 11,77mm - 88 - 17,5°
After installing I had to relevel the Swash and get the MIN / MAX equal again because you "lower" everything when using the shorter balls / KDE Arm...did not change my "screwd link length" though - becaus 0.5° are to little to correct...just used "vbar-subtrim-tab"...
After adjusting all to 12,0° Pitch and 8,0° Cyclic I'm now at:
90 Pitch
89 Cyclic
61 Cyclic Ring with +19,0° / -17,5° on my max cylic/collective combined...
You can't get it even as per -18,25° / +18,25° because the DFC is not (so) adjustable in height....I rather screw the plasitc links on the DFC completly minus one turn in...
Test flight is still to go tomorrow, but I think it will really rock! My 450 Pro Vbar flies "nicer" through rainbows/stops as it has 86 on Cyclic anyway...now the 600EFL MUST fly nicer too
For you guys from europe:
KDE Shipping with USPS International Express took only from the 16th to the 21st ...so 5 days (including a weekend) - but it's kinda pricy with USD $40...
The 2 parts are like 25€ and the DFC around 60€...
Not cheap but I'm pleased with the improved numbers!
I hope it was helpfull...after all you can say:
Smaller inner (8,5mm vs. 10,5mm) plus 5 Points
Larger outer (9,77mm vs. 11,77mm) plus 2 Points
KDE vs. Stock plus 8 Points
Hope the unequal max/min pitch due to the Cyclic Ring aren't gonna be a bummer...also the decreased range from 20,5° to more or less 18,25°...10% less "agility" ...Are you ever gonna need it?!
Greetings
NEBUCHADNEZZA